[higgy]

It might take me a while to get to Missouri, but I'm a pretty good Grandma carrier!

[LaRemnant]

Originally Posted by higgy

It might take me a while to get to Missouri, but I'm a pretty good Grandma carrier!

I can see it already... mum on your back holding on for dear life with one arm extended out pointing and confidently a'yellin' THATA WAY!

[LaRemnant]

Originally Posted by stairman

how bout a wheelbarrow?

They used that technique in the old classic movie: Shadrack. Check it out. It seemed pretty effective LOL.

[LaRemnant]

Not to sound harsh, but I believe it was the Viking Norse folk who as a common practice were known for leaving the elderly on the side of some moutain top to die of the elements.

... just sayin'.

[Dennis]

Originally Posted by walkabout

Heres the thing, for those of you with love ones that need extra help in the bugging out, and this would be if you couldn't use autos to get anywhere but had to bug out on foot. Staying where your at was no option. Have you got a plan that will make it easier?

Well this has been my dilemma for a long time now walkabout. My mom is 81 and had a couple small stokes. I also got 3 of my grandchildren I’m taking care of also. So with no motorized transportation I’m stuck right here and I’m not leaven no one behind.

[walkabout]

Originally Posted by higgy

It might take me a while to get to Missouri, but I'm a pretty good Grandma carrier!

Higgy that is a heart warmer, thank you bud.

Thanks to all for some good advice and boy this is a difficult thing to think about and do if we need to. Sis and I will never leave our Mom behind, so it would be leave or stay with her. And knowin us we are going to pack her. B/c the situation I speak of would have to be sure death anyways, so we got to try.

I also thought of dogs makin some type of sled that a couple of dogs could pull. Little tight going through the brush but sis and I could weed wack.

Now Mom is a pretty tough ol gal, at 75, she and my sister had a wild hair and went rolling down a hill in a metal barrel all padded with pillows. Me being the oldest brat said what in the world did you do that for you old women, the answer BECAUSE, kids :/. So we might just have to barrel out , that will still be a BOB wouldn't it, bug out barrel.

As for me when I hit 90+ and something happens to have to bug out at least I want to get in the woods , Higgy I'll give ya a call , and point, its thata way!!! (((hugs)))

[shadowwodahs]

Being disabled myself with a very bad back and even worse heart, I have also pondered the question as to how I was gonna haul my necessities when and if the time comes. Since I don't believe in picking and choosing what I will or will not take with me, I have a rather large and heafty bug out bag, not to mention my Marlin 45-70 rifle, my Savage 22 rifle, my Glock 45 and my Taurus 38 Special. Also, to accompany these firearms I have reloaded a large catch of ammo for each weapon. Two cans of 45-70, one very large can of 22 LR, several cans of 45 ACP, and two cans of 38 Special. Now I know I can't take it all with me if I had to hoof it into the country, but I can take at least all of my 45-70 ammo and one can each of the other calibers if I use a good heavy duty wagon and pull it. I carried a back pack once with about 70 pounds for about 5 miles and it damn-near killed me, and that was before my back and heart surgery and I wouldn't do it again if I could. The wagon I am thinking about purchasing will carry at least 500 pounds easily (rated at 1000 pounds), over all terrains and cost $150.00 dollars. To me this makes more sense than lugging a heavy load on your back and leaving precious items behind. Enclosed is a photo of the wagon. Any thoughts or comments on this product as a transportation method?

[lpm67]

Its a good thread to put out there as most of us have at least one person we would have to think about if TSHTF. MY BOV is a bicycle with a trailer (that also converts into a pram), the trailer is the sort that caters for two children so could be used for either my BOB's and/or a person. There are weight limits but in all honestly I exceed those on a regular basis with no probs as its a solid trailer and well weighted/balanced for towing or pushing (as a pram).
As for me, my 19 year old son is Autistic so he'll have the energy to go much further than I would, my biggest problem would be to keep him quiet and to sit still (if we need to be stealthy). He already gets around with a bicycle and day pack, loves to hike long distances. The other big prob for him is getting him to accept rapid changes...he usually needs to be prepared for any change in routine but I have been working on that problem for years.

[mscureman]

Coupla thoughts on this topic, and on Lel's post:

If you were to use a wheelbarrow as a sort of "rickshaw", I'd seriously consider cutting off the two legs that are used to keep it level when it's unattended and then pulling it, rather than trying to push it. Maybe lash on some poles to extend the handles a few feet to increase your leverage a bit. It'd still be quite a challenge, but worth trying. Especially if mom could get out and walk for a bit if you came to an especially rough patch in your trail.

Lel, I'm certainly no expert with autism, but I do tend to be a fair hand at amateur psychology and general trouble-shooting. Would it be possible to develop some kind of portable "routine" for your son? What I mean is something that he could take with him that he could fiddle with or occupy his mind with at regular intervals? Kind of like a security blanket that you could make sure he has with him if you had to bug out so at least he'd have a mental "safe haven" to return to when he gets stressed. A rubik's cube or other puzzle, a book, a harmonica or little flute...

I'm not sure I explained what I meant very well, and maybe what I'm describing isn't possible, but I hope you get what I'm getting at.

[Cajunlady]

Originally Posted by lpm67

As for me, my 19 year old son is Autistic so he'll have the energy to go much further than I would, my biggest problem would be to keep him quiet and to sit still (if we need to be stealthy). He already gets around with a bicycle and day pack, loves to hike long distances. The other big prob for him is getting him to accept rapid changes...he usually needs to be prepared for any change in routine but I have been working on that problem for years.

Having worked with Autistic children I know what challenges you are faced with. Not knowing him personally my solution to keeping him quiet and sitting still would be to pacify him with his comfort items he likes playing with or even some comfort snacks. As for change, yea, another great challenge. I don't know how far your BOL is from your present location. But if you can make several attempts to visit it as often as you can with him this might help.