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Old 11-03-2009
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I got of my butt and did a search.

Colloidal Silver Science Research & Scientific Studies

Here are some claimed studies on this website.

It boils down to who you believe and who you do not believe.

I would not use such a treatment on a daily basis just in case
of heavy metal poisoning. But for a severe life threatening illness
I would certainly use it for short term, that is my choice, everyone
should choose for themselves.

As I see it the stuff going around is just a mutation away from having
zero treatments by the normal medical methods, AND be airborne, in
fact we may be at that point right now and a super high rate
of death. Think about that.

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I have used it and from personal experience the nasal spray will shut down a sinus infection pretty quick. Husband has used it for that too with good results. Never tried it for anything else though.
Where do you get such an item? All this is completely news to me. I haven't heard a thing on all of this. Frightening!!!!!!
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Where do you get such an item? All this is completely news to me. I haven't heard a thing on all of this. Frightening!!!!!!
There is a thread on this forum about colloidal silver and treatments. There
is some concern that you can get metal posioning in usage.

You can find it in alternative health stores and stores that sell supplements.
You can buy a nasal applicator or bottle with a eye dropper.

As for usage you can check the old thread on this forum.

I am not a doctor, do your own research and use your own mind.

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Unidentified flue outbreak in Western Ukraine. Photo

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The disease started as an ordinary chill with headache and temperature. The symptoms lasted for a week before patient condition began to aggravate.

Zakarpattya Oblast

A man has died from the swine flue in Volovets. He has recently returned from Saint Petersburg, Russia, suffering from a cold. He was rushed to the hospital when pneumonia symptoms were found by doctors. Another local who came from Moscow became sick and went to see his doctor in time. Now he is recovering safely.

Ivano-Frankivsk Oblast

All the six dead young people had symptoms of severe hemmorhagic pneumonia. The disease starts slowly, with temperature rising to 37.2 – 37.3 degrees, slight cough and pain in joints. Nasal catarrh developed at the end of the second or third day. Autopsy revealed that the lungs were soaked with blood, the oblast chief specialist said.
It seems that if you have a proper treatment at the start you have a good
chance to beat it. It moves to the lungs eventually and that is it.

Think about treatment options.

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Again, even these studies only say that silver when used in matrix as things like filters, linings, etc. are useful in inhibiting bacterial growth, which is not in contention. Even the in-vitro (pre-natal animal studies) were not shown to have anti-VIRAL effectiveness, which is different than anti-bacterial and is necessary to have any use against the Flu, Swine or otherwise. Again, people are free to try whatever they wish to make them feel better, but I have generally found that most "studies" are either on food-contacting silver in resin, like a water filter unit, or they are "medical" studies that are inconclusive or are presented only by sites and doctors that are selling colloidal silver materials. I don't find that type of propoganda persuasive. It's like Pfizer saying that one of their drugs, tested only by their doctors, is the only effective treatment for a disease. If you can't get that verified in a completely independant study, from an incorruptable source that has nothing to do with Pfizer or the drug industry, or the only statement to that effect is in a PR piece put OUT by Pfizer, then it's essentially worthless. You can't believe things that support someone's position that were either generated by them and their industry "pet" doctors, or in studies that were paid for by that industry. Only independant, scientific methodology is useful in determining safety and effectiveness of medical claims. Anything else is playing a dangerous game. That isn't just about Silver, that's anything, whether it is "legitimate" like the H1N1 vaccines, or homeopathic/herbal/natural treatments and products. Anything that you are putting into your body or using to treat a medical condition should be completely studied and approved in independant testing by reputable agencies FOR the use you are planning for the product. Otherwise, it's russian roulette.

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I got of my butt and did a search.

Colloidal Silver Science Research & Scientific Studies

Here are some claimed studies on this website.

It boils down to who you believe and who you do not believe.

I would not use such a treatment on a daily basis just in case
of heavy metal poisoning. But for a severe life threatening illness
I would certainly use it for short term, that is my choice, everyone
should choose for themselves.

As I see it the stuff going around is just a mutation away from having
zero treatments by the normal medical methods, AND be airborne, in
fact we may be at that point right now and a super high rate
of death. Think about that.

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Again, even these studies only say that silver when used in matrix as things like filters, linings, etc. are useful in inhibiting bacterial growth, which is not in contention. Even the in-vitro (pre-natal animal studies) were not shown to have anti-VIRAL effectiveness, which is different than anti-bacterial and is necessary to have any use against the Flu, Swine or otherwise. Again, people are free to try whatever they wish to make them feel better, but I have generally found that most "studies" are either on food-contacting silver in resin, like a water filter unit, or they are "medical" studies that are inconclusive or are presented only by sites and doctors that are selling colloidal silver materials. I don't find that type of propoganda persuasive. It's like Pfizer saying that one of their drugs, tested only by their doctors, is the only effective treatment for a disease. If you can't get that verified in a completely independant study, from an incorruptable source that has nothing to do with Pfizer or the drug industry, or the only statement to that effect is in a PR piece put OUT by Pfizer, then it's essentially worthless. You can't believe things that support someone's position that were either generated by them and their industry "pet" doctors, or in studies that were paid for by that industry. Only independant, scientific methodology is useful in determining safety and effectiveness of medical claims. Anything else is playing a dangerous game. That isn't just about Silver, that's anything, whether it is "legitimate" like the H1N1 vaccines, or homeopathic/herbal/natural treatments and products. Anything that you are putting into your body or using to treat a medical condition should be completely studied and approved in independant testing by reputable agencies FOR the use you are planning for the product. Otherwise, it's russian roulette.
I agree but everyone is suspect to be on the payroll, everyone, that is
the real world that we live in. So you can sit and do nothing or do something.

The above studies I gave one from Brigham Young and one from Texas University.
As for anti Virus studies I have not found any yet, that is to
say they do not exist from some respectable university.

I did see a counter point in my searching, I don't have the link. That
Colloidal silver does not work effectively on all forms of bacterial caused illness.
Something good to know.

As for Russian Roulette, we all make our own choices but there are no
normal medical treatments that I know of that work against a viral illness.

I just did another search another cited study.

Colloidal Silver versus Swine Flu

Of course need to dig up the actual study and read it.



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Abstract

“The interaction of nanoparticles with biomolecules and microorganisms is an expanding field of research. Within this field, an area that has been largely unexplored is the interaction of metal nanoparticles with viruses.

In this work, we demonstrate that silver nanoparticles undergo a size-dependent interaction with HIV-1, with nanoparticles exclusively in the range of 1-10 nm attached to the virus.

The regular spatial arrangement of the attached nanoparticles, the center-to-center distance between nanoparticles, and the fact that the exposed sulfur-bearing residues of the glycoprotein knobs would be attractive sites for nanoparticle interaction suggest that silver nanoparticles interact with the HIV-1 virus via preferential binding to the gp120 glycoprotein knobs.

Due to this interaction, silver nanoparticles inhibit the virus from binding to host cells, as demonstrated in vitro.”

While silver’s well-known toxicity to a wide range of bacterial and fungal pathogens has been thoroughly documented in previous research by many leading research facilities, this study takes the previous research to a whole new level.

For the first time, the long-proven antimicrobial properties of silver nanoparticles were applied to a highly infectious form of virus with no known cure. And the interaction between the metallic particles, the virus and the cells were studied.
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That's a scary situation and the Ukrainians' health care system ain't that good
For me, I keep the handi wipes around in the car,in the BOB and always wash my hands regularly to keep the bugs at bay.

I heard that there is another swine flu bug coming from South America that hits those over 50 pretty hard My info is from EarthFiles.com Earthfiles.com Headline NewsUpdate on 2009 H1N1 flu
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Carolina Thanks for the info. Going to check it out! Thanks
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That's a scary situation and the Ukrainians' health care system ain't that good
For me, I keep the handi wipes around in the car,in the BOB and always wash my hands regularly to keep the bugs at bay.

I heard that there is another swine flu bug coming from South America that hits those over 50 pretty hard My info is from EarthFiles.com Earthfiles.com Headline NewsUpdate on 2009 H1N1 flu
I just stay home.....too scared to go out. LOL Gonna check out the link now.
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Reminds me I need more colloidal silver. I use it a lot in winter to keep the sinus infections at bay.
I thought colloidal silver (or ingesting anything with silver in it) caused your skin to irreversibly turn gray, like silver.
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